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		<title>Tempering Overexuberance</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2009/07/08/tempering-overexuberance/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis Howlett is amongst the realists when it comes to GoogleOS, and he rightly reminds us that: Linux has not fared so well in the Netbooks market and I don’t see anything here that makes me think Google ChromeOS will (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2009/07/08/tempering-overexuberance/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis Howlett is amongst the realists when it comes to GoogleOS, and <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howlett/?p=1065" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogs.zdnet.com');" target="_blank">he rightly reminds us that:</a></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;"><a style="text-decoration: none; color: #004d99; cursor: pointer; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://gadgetblips.dailyradar.com/story/global_notebook_players_to_gain_back_market_share_with/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/gadgetblips.dailyradar.com');">Linux has not fared so well in the Netbooks market</a> and I don’t see anything here that makes me think Google ChromeOS will do any better. Where’s the secret sauce here other than the Google halo effect painted over with the browser and duly hyped by the SV Google lovers? Sure, I can see why Google might make subtle statements that people wish to interpret but the reality is no-one outside the Silicon Valley tech bubble gives a damn what operating system and browser they use. Many are still mandated to use IE6 as a colleague reminded me the other day. Simply having Google wave its hand is not going to sway hard nosed enterprise buyers &#8211; even if it is free. Which neatly brings me to another point</p>
<p style="margin-top: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">Google has said it wants to get help from the open source community. I’ll bet they do. All those drivers that Arrington dismisses with a wave of the hand WILL need to be served. If he thinks I”m wrong then a quick call to any of the major banks’ CTO offices should put him straight on that one. Better still, listen to some of the discussions at CloudCamps where the problem of driver capabilities in the Internet Cloud matter a great deal.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">I haven&#8217;t an intelligent thought about enterprise-related issues as it has to do with &#8230; well, pretty much anything.  But the lusty failure of Linux as an OS for Netbooks (<a href="http://blog.laptopmag.com/ubuntu-confirms-linux-netbook-returns-higher-than-anticpated" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blog.laptopmag.com');" target="_blank">according to some accounts</a>) for the lay-public (the Word-using, WOW-playing, I-just-canceled-my-AOL-subscription-6-months-ago public) is something no one should discount out of hand.</p>
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		<title>Chrome&#8217;s &#8220;Resolving Host&#8221; Problem Solved</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/17/chromes-resolving-host-problem-solved/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, solved for me anyway.  Sometime a few hours after it was released, Firefox stopped becoming my regular browser, and Chrome *did*.  I know &#8212; I was kind of amazed myself, in spite of all the plugins I&#8217;ve been missing. (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/17/chromes-resolving-host-problem-solved/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, solved for me anyway.  Sometime a few hours after it was released, Firefox stopped becoming my regular browser, and Chrome *did*.  I know &#8212; I was kind of amazed myself, in spite of all the plugins I&#8217;ve been missing.  At any rate, <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/09/googles-chrome-one-retraction-two-things-it-does-wrong/"  target="_blank">one thing I&#8217;ve begun noticing has been getting worse</a>: its seeming inability to &#8220;resolve the host&#8221;.</p>
<p>This would lead to the browser essentially &#8220;hanging&#8221; and then timing out while it was waiting to fetch web pages.  For a browser that I&#8217;ve been relying on mostly &#8230; well, to browse &#8230; this was becoming problematic.</p>
<p>Turns out there are a few easy solutions for this that you can try:</p>
<p>1. delete your cache</p>
<p>2. delete your browsing history</p>
<p>3. delete your download history</p>
<p><strong>4. disable &#8220;DNS pre-fetching&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Personally, I skipped right down to #4, and once DNS pre-fetching *was* disabled, Chrome was as zippy as ever.  As always use the above tips at your own risk if you feel like trying them out.  </p>
<p><em>via: </em><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-chrome-help-troubleshooting/browse_thread/thread/1f60db303fcc3707" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/groups.google.com');" target="_blank"><em>Google Groups</em></a></p>
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		<title>Google&#8217;s Chrome: One Retraction, Two Things It Does Wrong</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/09/googles-chrome-one-retraction-two-things-it-does-wrong/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I&#8217;ve been using Chrome for a little while.  I still likes it, but there are a few things that have come to my attention that require me updating my original post.  One retraction of sorts, and two other things (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/09/googles-chrome-one-retraction-two-things-it-does-wrong/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;ve been using Chrome for a little while.  I still likes it, but there are a few things that have come to my attention that require me updating <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/04/two-things-firefox-never-seems-to-fix-which-chrome-gets-right/"  target="_blank">my original post</a>.  One retraction of sorts, and two other things that greatly annoy (and maybe its just me).</p>
<p><strong>1. Chrome isn&#8217;t as &#8220;small&#8221; as I thought: </strong>I cottoned on to this fairly quickly after my initial post.  Chrome isn&#8217;t kidding when it talks about thinking of each tab as its own set of processes;  if you have a look at the Windows Task Manager, you&#8217;ll find there are many many instances of Chrome floating around, probably in some way representing all of the separate silo&#8217;d processes that Chrome is touting.  Yes, this is probably good for stability.  But I was initially bufalloed into thinking that Chrome only took up, say, 40-60mb of memory, when in fact, that was only a single &#8220;process&#8221; I was picking up.  On heavier days, Chrome uses easily as much as Firefox, that is, in excess of 100 mb of RAM, and possibly almost 150 <strong>mb.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/chrome-processes.png" ><img class="size-full wp-image-1400 aligncenter" title="chrome-processes" src="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/chrome-processes.png" alt="" width="332" height="122" /></a></p>
<p><strong>2. Chrome has problems resolving URLs: </strong>I&#8217;m not sure what it is, but for some reason I&#8217;ve noticed that Chrome has a <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-chrome-help-troubleshooting/browse_thread/thread/d26162a44988c872/d33d1c7e1b60660d?lnk=gst&amp;q=#d33d1c7e1b60660d" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/groups.google.com');" target="_blank">problem with resolving URLs</a>.   You know: websites.  Its inconsistent with the kinds of websites, but some of them are big and some small.  It drives me nuts, because there&#8217;s no particular rhyme or reason to it.</p>
<p><strong>3.  Chrome shows your most visited websites &#8212; and you can&#8217;t change that (for now): </strong>When you open up a new tab, Chrome &#8220;helpfully&#8221; shows your most visited URL&#8217;s via your web history.  If you have not decided to be discrete via the &#8220;incognito&#8221; function, you might find some surprising URLs that show up that you might not want others to see.  Case in point: I was looking for a gift for my wife the other day.  POOF &#8212; URL shows up when she decides to try Chrome the other day.  In this &#8220;SFW&#8221; example, I was busted and embarassed.  But in this iteration of Chrome this is something you cannot change, alter, or delete single sites, and instead have to <a href="http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=97488&amp;topic=14674" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.google.com');" target="_blank">delete your entire browsing history.</a></p>
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		<title>Two Things Firefox Never Seems To Fix (Which Chrome Gets Right)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My laptop is running XP, and its a bit of an oldish machine.  Pentium M.  500 MB RAM.  80 gig hard drive.  Its running a little slower these days &#8212; seems to slow right down the instant you right click (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/04/two-things-firefox-never-seems-to-fix-which-chrome-gets-right/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
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My laptop is running XP, and its a bit of an oldish machine.  Pentium M.  500 MB RAM.  80 gig hard drive.  Its running a little slower these days &#8212; seems to slow right down the instant you right click on a folder, or open up the control panel.  In fact, its so slow I don&#8217;t even use the native version of Firefox 3.0 anymore &#8212; I use <a href="http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/portableapps.com');" target="_blank">Firefox portable</a>, as its a heck of a lot faster to boot up.  We&#8217;re talking about 90 seconds versus about 30.</p>
<p>I like to keep my that kind of operating environment in mind as some of the discourse around Firefox vs. Chrome <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/so-is-chrome-the-fastest-or-what/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.techcrunch.com');" target="_blank">heats up / cools down</a>, particularly as <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/news.cnet.com');" target="_blank">some of the rhetoric</a> revolves around the <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5044668/beta-browser-speed-tests-which-is-fastest" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/lifehacker.com');" target="_blank">speed of said browsers</a> (of which I contributed a small at amount), one thing that sticks out that Mozilla has yet to address is how heavy Firefox has become.  Sure Firefox 3.1 might be fast.  Firefox 3.0 might be fast for some.  </p>
<p>But there are two damnable things in my experience that Firefox has yet to improve with each iteration, which are all the more sensitive with older laptops and PCs:</p>
<p><strong>1. boot up times: </strong>As stated earlier, it takes what seems to be an age and a half for Firefox to boot up.  Its so painful I have stopped using it, for fear its going to crash and necessitate me to restart it.  I have the attention span of a gerbil at times, and boot up times &#8212; particularly on this old laptop &#8212; have sunk into the unacceptable range many months ago.</p>
<p><strong>2. memory footprint: </strong>Tried booting up Firefox 3.0 just for comparison&#8217;s sake.  Right off the bat, its using about 80 mb of space.  Its not uncommon for it to use about to 200 mb, and on my desk top closer to 500 mb.   Chrome?  About 60mb.  And that&#8217;s with all kinds of tabs and theatrics going on.</p>
<p>Sure, part of the problem are the plugins that I&#8217;ve installed.  Perhaps I need to optimize and tweak my about:config a little better.  But really?  The gerbil part of my mind says that I don&#8217;t have to do that when there&#8217;s an easier alternative at the moment.  Quite frankly, I don&#8217;t even miss my plugins that much at this stage of the game.</p>
<p>I mean, let&#8217;s go back to start up times.  On this old crickety laptop, Chrome boots up in about 0.5 seconds.  BAM.  Literally a blink of an eye.  And the sheer awesomeness of *that* is going to be something that&#8217;s hard to beat in this gerbil&#8217;s mind.</p>
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		<title>Google&#8217;s Chrome: The Only Two Things You Need To Know</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having played around with Google&#8217;s new browser, Chrome, I&#8217;d like to offer my two bits to the ongoing bloggasm around its release.  If you&#8217;re looking for an indepth review, wander over to Uncle Walt&#8217;s breakdown. I modestly submit to you (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/02/googles-chrome-the-only-two-things-you-need-to-know/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>Having played around with Google&#8217;s new browser, Chrome, I&#8217;d like to offer my two bits to the ongoing bloggasm around its release.  If you&#8217;re looking for an indepth review, wander over to <a href="http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20080902/first-test-of-googles-new-browser/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/ptech.allthingsd.com');" target="_blank">Uncle Walt&#8217;s breakdown</a>. I modestly submit to you that if you&#8217;re a busy individual, these are the only two things you really need to know before you go and <a href="http://www.google.com/chrome/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.google.com');" target="_blank">try it out for yourself</a>.</p>
<p><strong>1. Its incomplete, but that&#8217;s ok. </strong></p>
<p>In fact, its more than ok.  Its practically zen in how fast, how small, and how lightweight it is.  Its also<a href="http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.webstandards.org');" target="_blank"> standards compliant</a>.  True, its <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/09/02/is_there_anything_original_in_google_chrome.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogs.guardian.co.uk');" target="_blank">many features echo things</a> that either IE8 does, or Opera does, or what Firefox extensions do, but to me that&#8217;s neither here nor there.  What&#8217;s glaringly missing, however, is that unlike Firefox, it doesn&#8217;t (yet?) support extensions or plugins.  That means no Firebug.  No ad block.  And no Delicious tagging.  Also there&#8217;s <a href="http://internetducttape.com/2008/09/02/why-google-chrome-isnt-my-default-browser/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/internetducttape.com');" target="_blank">no Auto-RSS subscribing feature</a>.  Its focus, apparently is web applications present and future, which is something I&#8217;ll talk about briefly in a second, and for what its worth, they too are light and snappy as well (picnik was absolutely rocking)  If memory leakage is a problem for you, brief tests (by me) seem to show that its pretty tight ship at around 60mb with multiple windows open, javascript and AJAX going and so on.  Bottom line:  it works very well at being a browser, but its missing some very important bells and whistles that power users might need.  </p>
<p><strong>2. In fact, its probably part of the plan.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>From Google&#8217;s point of view, Chrome is probably only one part of a multi-year over-reaching strategy that precious few are privvy too.  It probably involves buying up tons of dark fibre.  Of building secret data stations all around the States.  And last, but not least, that Android thing that got so much hoopla, and its own emphasis on applications and rich media.  I think its probably impossible to know EXACTLY how Chrome plays a role in all of this, but I think its a safe bet that Google wants as much as control as humanly possible over how it delivers web experiences, and if all of the above strategic moves are consistent with that, then owning its own browser? A triple check in that category as well.</p>
<p>BTW, exactly how multi-year is the Chrome plan?  I&#8217;m going to say that there&#8217;s probably a strategic document that says Chrome will probably be ready to hit prime time in a minimum of 3 years, although they&#8217;ll continue to evolve the product in stages over that time frame.</p>
<p>Why three years?  Its no hard and fast indication, but Google&#8217;s renewed its financial and joint-venture relationship with the Mozilla Foundation until 2011.  I don&#8217;t care what the public relations folk say: Firefox and Chrome are headed for a collision course, and Google&#8217;s happy to give the appearance of playing along for a few years until its good and ready to pimp Chrome on its own real estate.</p>
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		<title>Google&#8217;s Chrome Could Be Crap &#8212; And It Would Still Gain Market Share</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/01/googles-chrome-could-be-crap-and-it-would-still-gain-market-share/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of interesting news about Google&#8217;s new browser, Chrome, and lots more interesting questions around it.  I love the comic by Scott Adams McCloud, being a fan of his work (mainly Understanding Comics and Making Comics ) as well, but (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/09/01/googles-chrome-could-be-crap-and-it-would-still-gain-market-share/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting news about <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/googleblog.blogspot.com');" target="_blank">Google&#8217;s new browser, Chrome</a>, and <a href="http://technologizer.com/2008/09/01/ten-questions-about-google-chrome/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/technologizer.com');" target="_blank">lots more interesting questions around it</a>.  <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYC&amp;printsec=frontcover" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/books.google.com');" target="_blank">I love the comic</a> by Scott <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Adams</span> McCloud, being a fan of his work (mainly <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Comics-Invisible-Scott-Mccloud/dp/006097625X" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.amazon.com');" target="_blank">Understanding Comics</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Comics-Storytelling-Secrets-Graphic/dp/0060780940/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.amazon.com');" target="_blank">Making Comics</a> ) as well, but that&#8217;s beside the point.  The most surprising news, for me, is that its not being released at some unknown period in the future, but tomorrow.  As in two hours from now.  For news this big, its kind of amazing we haven&#8217;t heard anything trickle out except for unsubstantiated rumours.  That&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p>The other thing that struck me is that Chrome could be crap &#8212; and it probably won&#8217;t, but it could be &#8212; and yet, the penetration of this product could be *huge*.  Google owns almost 70% of the total search in North America.  70%!  Even if no one else wrote about it, there was no blogger buzz, and no coverage that we all expect in tomorrow&#8217;s news &#8230; all it has to do is throw up some strategic links on its SERP&#8217;s, on its home page, and on all of its applications (since Chrome will exist for web applications it would be especially apropros), and this will still get thousands and thousands of downloads on the strength of Google&#8217;s web presence alone.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s not even taking into the consideration some people think of <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/07/17/the-mainstream-deception-is-googles-achilles-heel/"  target="_blank">Google as the Internet itself.</a></p>
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