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		<title>Google vs. Technorati: Who Wins In Inbound Links?</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/10/google-vs-technorati-who-wins-in-inbound-links/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, if you&#8217;re like me and have updated to WordPress 2.3, you may have also noted that on the WordPress dashboard, the &#8220;inbound links&#8221; list is now being populated by Google&#8217;s Blogsearch and not Technorati. There&#8217;s been some talk about (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/10/google-vs-technorati-who-wins-in-inbound-links/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>So, if you&#8217;re like me and have updated to WordPress 2.3, you may have also noted that on the WordPress dashboard, the &#8220;inbound links&#8221; list is now being populated by Google&#8217;s Blogsearch and not Technorati.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been some talk about how relevant Technorati has been (including a <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/technorati-dumps-on-small-minded-bloggers-yours-truly-included/"  target="_blank">particularly shrill post by yours truly</a>), and perhaps because it *hasn&#8217;t* been, getting Google to index inbound links, therefore, is a Good Thing.</p>
<p>But is it?</p>
<p>Is Google&#8217;s Blogsearch <strong>*good* at finding those inbound Blog links? </strong></p>
<p>Now, a quick look by myself shows that for Deep Jive Interests, <strong>the answer is resounding &#8220;HELL NO.&#8221;</strong>  The last time Google shows any inbound link <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.deepjiveinterests.com%2F&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogsearch.google.com');" target="_blank">is October 30th</a>, but in fact I have inbound links all the way until yesterday.  In fact, Technorati is able to find <a href="http://www.technorati.com/blogs/deepjiveinterests.com?reactions" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.technorati.com');" target="_blank">blogs that have linked to me within the minute those posts</a> (that have those links) are published.  Google looks like its about a week behind.<br />
Now the caveat here is that I am still waiting for my blog to get re-indexed by Google <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/07/i-was-hacked/"  target="_blank">after I was hacked</a>.  So, maybe *that*&#8217;s the reason why Google doesn&#8217;t look so good, right?</p>
<p>Well, I had a few cursory looks at a few of my other<a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mathewingram.com%2Fwork&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogsearch.google.com');" target="_blank"> favourite blogs</a>, and the same sort of <a href="http://www.technorati.com/blogs/mathewingram.com%2Fwork?reactions" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.technorati.com');" target="_blank">pattern emerges</a>.  Technorati is able to find the &#8220;reactions&#8221; within minutes of those inbound links actually being published.</p>
<p>Google? <strong> It has trouble.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Now, I don&#8217;t know the actual &#8220;why&#8217;s&#8221; for this happening</strong>; perhaps its because everyone and their sister who has a blog registers it formally *with* Technorati so they can follow their own Authority ranking and so on.  And furthermore, because by Default, WordPress pings Pingo-matic, which by default usually pings Technorati.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;ve read that <a href="http://ewebscapes.com/blog-visibility-google-ping-service/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/ewebscapes.com');" target="_blank">Google also monitors Pingo-matic</a>, and should therefore also update whenever Pingo-matic updates.  If that&#8217;s the case, then, I don&#8217;t know &#8212; perhaps actually registering your site (and pinging) with Technorati makes it easier to work these kinds of relationships out and in a much quicker fashion.</p>
<p><strong>In any case, I suggest you try and figure this out for yourself.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>1. Go to Google&#8217;s BlogSearch at <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogsearch.google.com');" target="_blank">http://blogsearch.google.com/</a></p>
<p>2. For the search term, enter &#8220;link:URL_OF_YOUR_BLOG&#8221; &#8211;&gt; and of course replace the URL of your blog as necessary.</p>
<p>3. Note the results which are sorted by default according to date.  Marvel at how dated some of these results are.</p>
<p>4. Then, go to Technorati at <a href="http://www.technorati.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.technorati.com');" target="_blank">http://www.technorati.com</a> (naturally)</p>
<p>5. Enter your own blog URL again, and note the number of reactions.  Marvel at how fresh these results are.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you find that I&#8217;m totally off my rocker, let me know.  However, in the few blogs that I&#8217;ve checked I&#8217;ve come up with similar results.  Maybe I *will* install <a href="http://www.nusuni.com/blog/nusuni-technorati-links-wordpress-plugin/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.nusuni.com');" target="_blank">this plugin now</a>. ;)</p>
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		<title>Technorati Dumps On Small Minded Bloggers (Yours Truly Included)</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/technorati-dumps-on-small-minded-bloggers-yours-truly-included/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw small minded, because only small minded people would care about their Technorati ranking, and only the small minded would care if Technorati were indexing older, and clearly &#60;dripping with sarcasm&#62; irrelevant &#60;/still dripping with sarcasm&#62; posts that took (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/technorati-dumps-on-small-minded-bloggers-yours-truly-included/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/kiss-my-ass.jpg" alt="Homer Can Tell Technorati What To Do" align="right" />I saw small minded, because only small minded people would care about their Technorati ranking, and only the small minded would care if Technorati were indexing older, and clearly <strong>&lt;dripping with sarcasm&gt; irrelevant &lt;/still dripping with sarcasm&gt;</strong> posts that took time to write, think about and otherwise put together.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that I am small minded, and and am thus am more than a little outraged that Technorati has decided to drop &#8212; until further notice, or it is otherwise economically feasible &#8212; <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/05/technorati-drops-content-older-than-6-months-old/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.techcrunch.com');" target="_blank">posts that are more than 6 months old</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, there are the arguments that Technorati is irrelevant, so &#8220;who cares&#8221;; there is also the assertion that Technorati is trying to move away from archiving and indexing blogs in favour of other &#8220;new media&#8221;, because that&#8217;s what is &#8220;cool&#8221;, &#8220;hip&#8221;, and &#8220;relevant&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Well, bollocks to both of those things.</strong></p>
<p>I think its tremendously disrespectful that Technorati has elected to ignore a ton of great postings for the sake of expediency, and worse yet, <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/11/05/technorati-deletes-index-hopes-customers-wont-notice/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.zoliblog.com');" target="_blank"><strong>not really even tell anyone about it</strong></a>, perhaps thinking that no one would notice &#8212; even if its &#8216;temporary&#8217;.  It is doing a great job of hastening its own irrelevance, and I can see with the recent WordPress 2.3.x update that it is becoming even more irrelevant still.</p>
<p>For those who haven&#8217;t yet upgraded (and you should, although watch out for the business about categories and tagging), you will find out when you do that on your WordPress Dashboard the <a href="http://www.online-tech-tips.com/wordpress/how-to-revert-back-to-technorati-links-in-the-wordpress-23-dashboard/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.online-tech-tips.com');" target="_blank">incoming links are no longer powered by Technorati</a>, but by Google Blogsearch.</p>
<p>Now, when I found out about this change, I was going to install <a href="http://www.nusuni.com/blog/nusuni-technorati-links-wordpress-plugin/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.nusuni.com');" target="_blank">this plugin to revert things back</a> (and I still may &#8212; I am small minded after all) &#8212; but with how Technorati has shrunk its index &#8230; well, bollocks indeed, Technorati, bollocks indeed.</p>
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		<title>Yet Another Botched Opportunity For a Social Media News Release (WHY? &#8212; I mean, &#8220;why?&#8221;)</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/07/02/yet-another-botched-opportunity-for-a-social-media-news-release-why-i-mean-why/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[PR 2.0]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m going to yak about Yahoo! SmartAds in a moment, but I&#8217;d just like to take a second and rant about yet another plain vanilla press release.  Right now, at the top of Techmeme, is the Yahoo Press Release for (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/07/02/yet-another-botched-opportunity-for-a-social-media-news-release-why-i-mean-why/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to yak about Yahoo! SmartAds in a moment, but I&#8217;d just like to take a second and rant about <a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=252011" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/yhoo.client.shareholder.com');" target="_blank">yet another plain vanilla press release.</a>  Right now, <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/070702/p23#a070702p23" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.techmeme.com');" target="_blank">at the top of Techmeme</a>, is the Yahoo Press Release for SmartAds.  Once you take a look at it, maybe you&#8217;ll do what I did, and have your eyes glaze over while you almost fall out of your chair in a somnolent stupor.</p>
<p>BOOOOOORING.</p>
<p><strong>Disengaged.</strong></p>
<p>Out of the conversation.</p>
<p>Dammit, why can&#8217;t we see more <a href="http://www.pr-squared.com/2007/02/the_social_media_newsroom_temp.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.pr-squared.com');" target="_blank">press releases or news rooms that are smartly integrated with social media</a>?</p>
<p>Hell, isn&#8217;t Yahoo! trying to take a more social media bent, what with its Web2.0 acquisitions?  I know, I know &#8212; PR is different, and yes, maybe I am hallucinating about Yahoo!&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>But jeebus, why can&#8217;t we for once <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/04/28/adobes-flex-the-case-for-a-social-media-news-room/"  target="_blank">see a major product launch (or service launch)</a> with</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>a) Just the facts:</strong> You could pare down the Press release into about 5 or 6 bullet points.  And the most important point in the Press Release is actually buried somewhere in the middle.  Did you read it?  It said &#8220;SmartAds generally resulted in click through rates of two to three times higher than static, non-customized display ads using the same targeting and placement.&#8221;  But I&#8217;ll bet most DIDN&#8217;T because its buried in paragraph SIX.</p>
<p><strong>b) Links to ongoing blog &#8220;reactions&#8221;:</strong> Technorati &#8212; are you listening?</p>
<p><strong>c) Examples: </strong>Why not show exactly what SmartAds does?  Either link out to sites that are doing it, or actually show demos and case studies.  The first &#8212; fine, they&#8217;re still testing it.  But jeebus, man, instead of telling us, just show us.  Or get Scoble to do a video on it! (<a href="http://www.podtech.net/home/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.podtech.net');" target="_blank">PodTech, are you listening?</a>)  In fact, I&#8217;m kind of surprised <a href="http://scobleizer.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/scobleizer.com');" target="_blank">Scoble *hasn&#8217;t* done a video on it. </a></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I know, I know. Press Releases have their time and place.  You need to get everyone on board and have the important principles to sign off.  Its a corporate statement.  And so on.</p>
<p>But for the love of pete,<strong> this was a great opportunity! </strong> Yahoo! could have really gotten with the Peanut Butter to create something that people would go back to &#8212; as social media news rooms act like a hub *for* conversations.  <strong>I love Techmeme</strong> like everyone else, but why let Techmeme have all the fun?  Yahoo! started the conversation &#8212; why not let host it for real?</p>
<p>Ok &#8230; ok &#8230; I&#8217;ll get of my soapbox now. ;)</p>
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