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		<title>Mashable vs. John Reese: The Bigger Issue In Internet Marketing</title>
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				<category><![CDATA[Duncan Riley]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s one heck of a donnybrook going on at Mashable, kicked off via Duncan Riley at the Inquistr, involving everyone&#8217;s favourite downtime service (Twitter), and John Reese, Internet Marketing schlep / god (depending on where you sit). Funny thing is (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2008/06/20/mashable-vs-john-reese-the-bigger-issue-in-internet-marketing/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one heck of a donnybrook going on at <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/06/19/john-reese/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mashable.com');" target="_blank">Mashable</a>, kicked off via <a href="http://www.inquisitr.com/1110/pending-sign-of-the-twitter-apocalypse-its-being-talked-about-by-internet-marketers/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.inquisitr.com');" target="_blank">Duncan Riley at the Inquistr</a>, involving everyone&#8217;s favourite downtime service (Twitter), and <a href="http://www.income.com/blog/2008/06/19/wake-up-call-web-20-wouldnt-exist-without-internet-marketers/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.income.com');" target="_blank">John Reese, Internet Marketing schlep / god</a> (depending on where you sit).</p>
<p>Funny thing is that the comments on most of the blogs come overwhelmingly from from the &#8220;Internet Marketing is Good&#8221; camp, overwhelmingly supporting John Reese.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not going to debate the merits of the actual issue (Twitter&#8217;s coming apocalypse now the Internet Marketers have arrived), but what I do want to comment on &#8212; as someone who has observed the Internet Marketing industry pretty closely for over 10 years &#8212; <strong>is how refreshing it is to have some real conversation on the issue.</strong></p>
<p>Because one of the biggest problems with Internet Marketing is that are very few real conversations about it.  Most of it are on the forums, <strong>but the even there its hard to find a real opinion on things.</strong></p>
<p>(but if you&#8217;re looking for a rare post, <a href="http://www.brenthodgson.com/personal/are-the-gurus-out-to-help-you-or-just-make-profits.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.brenthodgson.com');" target="_blank">look over here</a>)</p>
<p><strong>Why is this?</strong></p>
<p>Because of affiliate marketing.</p>
<p>There was a reason why Mark alluded to the industry and affiliate marketing like spyware.  Now of course it is nothing (literally) like software replicating itself; but what he was getting at was that because people are compensated / monetized for promoting something, it encourages people to do it &#8212; ad naseum.</p>
<p>In fact, this is an entirely rational response, and billions are made in the affiliate industry doing it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, because the Internet marketing industry lives on promoting itself *TO* itself, you get very few real opinions and conversations on products *IN* the internet marketing industry, because everyone is too busy chasing affiliate checks.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest &#8212; it takes a (VERY) strong Internet Marketer (or blogger) to avoid reviewing a product without throwing out their affiliate link; and if they&#8217;re going to do it, its going to make it doubly hard to write a real critical review.</p>
<p>If you doubt me, head on to see the over abundance of folks on John Reese&#8217;s side and follow their links.  To a man (or woman) they&#8217;re all promoting &#8212; guess what? &#8212; products or services related to Internet Marketing (and its a big industry).</p>
<p>There are many things that Internet Marketing does right.  An emphasis on actually selling a product, for example, rather than persuing the freemium model endlessley.</p>
<p>But there are a great deal of things that are fundamentally bankrupt that very, VERY few people acknowledge or even talk about.  And I&#8217;m not talking about the exceptions, or exceptional individuals, who John Reese may be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking about the average.  I&#8217;m talking about the rule.  I&#8217;m talking about what ordinary folks see when they try and dip their foot in to the water &#8212; and to spell it out, yes, <a href="http://www.imnewswatch.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.imnewswatch.com');" target="_blank">its the endless hype, the endless promotion,</a> and the lack of any critical thinking on anyone&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>And I think its a very good thing &#8212; at the very least &#8212; that perhaps the conversation on this topic has begun in earnest.</p>
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