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		<title>When Slate Discusses It, They&#8217;re Wise and Prescient.  When Fred Wilson Does It, He&#8217;s Just Ageist.</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/15/when-slate-discusses-it-theyre-wise-and-prescient-when-fred-wilson-does-it-hes-just-ageist/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, what the difference of a few months makes. Or, rather, perhaps its just the pull of a web magazine, like Slate. Most recently, Slate has come up with an article heralding the death of email, in the face of (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/15/when-slate-discusses-it-theyre-wise-and-prescient-when-fred-wilson-does-it-hes-just-ageist/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, what the difference of a few months makes.  Or, rather, perhaps its just the pull of a web magazine, like Slate.  Most recently, Slate has come up with an <a href="http://slate.com/id/2177969/pagenum/all/#page_start" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/slate.com');" target="_blank">article heralding the death of email</a>, in the face of a generational shift in communication methods.</p>
<p>Translation: kidz luv IM.</p>
<p>And texting.</p>
<p>And yes, there&#8217;s a lot to be said about what the medium means, irrespective of the message.</p>
<p>Which is funny, however, given how this past June Fred Wilson <a href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2007/06/the_age_questio_1.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/avc.blogs.com');" target="_blank">was raked over the coal</a>s for talking about how it was easier for digital natives to see and take advantage for the future.  I think a lot of bloggers were particularly sensitive over the post, and while yes, age doesn&#8217;t matter, in a very real difference, age *does* matter.</p>
<p>(which I discussed <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/06/17/is-the-web20-necessarily-for-the-young-no-but-on-average-almost-certainly-yes/"  target="_blank">over here about 6 months ago as well</a>).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a generation of individuals that are using technology in a way that is completely foreign &#8212; even to folks who are &#8220;only&#8221; 5-10 years their senior.  And there&#8217;s *another* digital generation that are 5-10 years *their* junior who are facile at using another kind of technology that teenagers aren&#8217;t quite as &#8216;hip&#8217; to &#8212; virtual worlds a la Club Penguin.</p>
<p>I could also make hand-waving arguments about how these kinds of interactions might _also_ actually have profound effects on brain development, in the way that both generations interact in their interpersonal relationships, and in so doing, provide a vague (but possibly substantial) argument that there is a real organic impact on these folks.</p>
<p>Which makes, in a round about way, Fred Wilson right: there is a generation of people for whom email is a bit of a relic.  Some older folks have made a similar leap, but by and large its a generational *thing* (see Mat Ingram&#8217;s <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/11/15/is-email-dead-no-but-its-not-well/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.mathewingram.com');" target="_blank">interactions with his own kids</a>), that will allow some of them, by and large to see things that other generations won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Pownce Is Not Twitter, Nor Is It As Important As Twitter.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Ambient Broadcasting]]></category>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/07/05/i-have-pownce-invites-help-me-test-it-out/"  target="_blank">I&#8217;ve had a few days to mull over Pownce</a>.  And you can add my review to the giant stack of reviews you&#8217;ve probably read, some of which have been positive and others not so much.  Mine you can add to the &#8220;not so much&#8221; pile.</p>
<p>So, what is Pownce?</p>
<p>Pownce is an web-based instant messaging system that can be used ex-browser if you download the Adobe Integrated Runtime.  Oh.  Its wrapped up in a pretty slick package, and you can send group messages.  <strong> That&#8217;s pretty much it.</strong></p>
<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be confused with services like Twitter, which are really continuous partial attention services, or something that I&#8217;ve described as <a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/?s=ambient+broadcasting"  target="_blank">ambient broadcasting</a>.</p>
<p>The reason is because unlike Twitter, or even the &#8220;status&#8221; system that&#8217;s available through Facebook, <strong>there is yet to be an easy way to update your status, or send messages (about your status) through a mobile device.</strong>  You can only message when you&#8217;re attached to the &#8216;net through a PC.  This difference cannot be understated because it means that when you&#8217;re at an event &#8212; literally, an event &#8212; you can broadcast information live to your friends.  You can tell them where you are, what you&#8217;re doing, what you&#8217;re thinking, and where you want to meet.  Twitter, after all, <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2007/03/11/twitter_crowd_goes_bananas_at_sxsw.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/blogs.guardian.co.uk');" target="_blank">exploded after SXSW</a>, where people were Twittering away about where they were during the festival &#8212; and in a peculiar voyeuristic way, you could almost &#8220;be&#8221; there too if you were observing the tweets.</p>
<p>The other, smaller, difference is that there is no character limit to the messages.  Twitter, for example, has a <strong>140 character limit.</strong>  You might not think this is such a big thing (pun not intended), but in fact, limiting the number of characters *forces* you to create terse and important messages.  It also meshes nicely with being able to, in fact, create messages, *anywhere* you are, as mobile Twittering (or now, Twittergramming) is possible.</p>
<p>Both of these limitations make Pownce merely, for the most part, a fancy web based instant messaging system.  And if you think of it that way, <strong>its one that&#8217;s crippled in one vital respect</strong>, in that its not able to integrate with other instant messaging networks.</p>
<p>Sure, it might be so slick it <a href="http://mashable.com/2007/06/28/pownce-2/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/mashable.com');" target="_blank">might get you to change your mind</a> about which instant messaging system you might use.  But why should you stick with *one* instant messaging system when you can plug into *all* of them at once?  That way you don&#8217;t need to port over your entire network, which is really the killer *anything* of any networked application.</p>
<p>Heck, that&#8217;s almost like the *other* fancy web-based instant messaging system that I *already* use.  Maybe you&#8217;ve heard of it?  Its called <a href="http://www.meebo.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.meebo.com');" target="_blank">Meebo</a>, and it works pretty damn well.</p>
<p>Now, in all fairness Pownce will probably continue to evolve beyond just being able to doing what it is just doing.  It could add a mobile component, and that would dramatically change things.  It could also add the &#8220;plug into all networks&#8221; thing, as well.</p>
<p>But will it?  Or will it go in another direction entirely?  Time, as they say, will tell.</p>
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