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		<title>Ye Gads! A Doppleganger! (and a Site Update)</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/08/01/ye-gads-a-doppleganger-whos-the-johnny-come-lately/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil Lee's Beatnik has some eerie similarities to mine -- not only is it better looking, but his is 3 years old! (compared to my 3 months at this point).  Well, it prompted a bit of a theme evolution ... which is a nice change, I think. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>So, there I am, doing my normal surfing thing &#8230; and I stumble across another blog, whose theme strangly mimics mine!</strong></p>
<p><a title="Beatnikpad ... awesome" target="_blank" href="http://www.beatnikpad.com/index.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.beatnikpad.com');"><strong>Neil Lee&#8217;s BeatnikPad!</strong></a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s catalogue the similarities with my (now obviously) <a target="_blank" title="My old site" href="http://tony.thehungs.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/tony.thehungs.org');">old theme</a> (some of them <strong>somewhat eerie</strong>):</p>
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<li>Dark banner across the top &#8212; check!</li>
<li>Serif-type font in the headline &#8212; check!</li>
<li>Serif-type font everywhere! (hey, apparently I&#8217;m not the only one who likes Georgia) &#8212; check!</li>
<li>Sidebar on the right &#8212; check!</li>
<li>Asian dude &#8212; check!</li>
<li>30 years old &#8212; check!</li>
<li>Lives in Toronto &#8212; check!</li>
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<p>&#8230; and here&#8217;s the sad part (for me) &#8230;<br />
Started his website 3 months ago &#8212; BEEP! (errr &#8230; no)<br />
<strong>&#8211; actually, Neil hit it up, <a title="Neil's website has been up for a long time" target="_blank" href="http://www.beatnikpad.com/archives.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.beatnikpad.com');">like 3 *years* ago.</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8230; which, sadly, makes *me* the Johnny-come-lately.</p>
<p>(and of course, the differences start piling up after that &#8212; lives with cats, works with macs, likes taking <strike>snaps</strike> photos, uses typepad, has own ISSN and so on &#8230; )</p>
<p>Well, props to you Neil Lee &#8230; <strong>I tip my hat to your design good sir</strong>.<br />
It doth kicketh ass. :)</p>
<p>Anyway, it certainly kicked *my* ass into changing a few things around, as I was thinking of changing around my own-rolled wordpress theme anyway.</p>
<p><a title="My old theme" target="_blank" href="/tony.thehungs.org"><strong>Old DJI Theme</strong></a>; New DJI Theme (well, you&#8217;re looking at it, right?)</p>
<p>I guess its funny that way &#8212; you spend a lot of elbow grease and otherwise frustatingly long hours to hone, grind, and polish your theme, and whoops! Turns out that someone already had that idea.<br />
I wonder how many other theme authors run into this problem, by accident (<a title="pirated sites" target="_blank" href="http://www.pirated-sites.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.pirated-sites.com');"><strong>not on purpose</strong></a>).</p>
<p>Or, how many different design combinations there *really* are, plus or minus the unconscious influence of <strong><a title="Signal versus Noise" target="_blank" href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.37signals.com');">other</a> <a title="Zeldman" target="_blank" href="http://www.zeldman.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.zeldman.com');">websites</a> <a target="_blank" title="Veerle's Duoh" href="http://veerle.duoh.com/index.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/veerle.duoh.com');">we</a> <a target="_blank" title="i create things -- go canada" href="http://icreatethings.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/icreatethings.com');">may</a> <a target="_blank" title="Chris Montoya" href="http://www.christianmontoya.com/blog/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.christianmontoya.com');">have</a> <a target="_blank" title="Tyson Rosage" href="http://www.breakerdesign.com/about" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.breakerdesign.com');">seen</a> <a target="_blank" title="Chris Pearson's webpage" href="http://www.pearsonified.com/author.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.pearsonified.com');">around</a> <a target="_blank" title="Ux Mag" href="http://www.uxmag.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.uxmag.com');">the</a> <a target="_blank" title="Blurbomat" href="http://www.blurbomat.com/about.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.blurbomat.com');">web</a></strong>.</p>
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		<title>Deep Jive Interests &#8212; The Theme!</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/07/16/deep-jive-interests-the-theme/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Deep Jive Interests]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Design]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m converting one of my other themes to a formal &#8220;Deep JIve Interests&#8221; theme Things left to do: 1) Decide what the main nav is REALLY going to be like 2) Add a &#8220;by-line&#8221; somewhere 3) Categorize the category display (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/07/16/deep-jive-interests-the-theme/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m converting one of my other themes to a formal &#8220;Deep JIve Interests&#8221; theme</p>
<p>Things left to do:</p>
<p>1) Decide what the main nav is REALLY going to be like<br />
2) Add a &#8220;by-line&#8221; somewhere<br />
3) Categorize the category display by &#8220;alphabet&#8221;<br />
4) Sort out footer<br />
5) Figure out a &#8216;download&#8221; section<br />
6) Have an &#8220;above the fold&#8221; ADMIN link<br />
7) Create a *real* featured posts</p>
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		<title>Figuring out a proper &#8220;BELOW THE FOLD&#8221; footer</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/11/figuring-out-a-proper-below-the-fold-footer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To create a "below the fold" effect, you must create a separate entity -- a separate div -- for this.  I created a 'nested' footer to create this effect.  The separateness allows you to divorce what is going on "above" the fold, with what's goin on "below" the fold]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>well, I deleted the OLD &#8216;below the fold&#8217; stuff &#8212; basically it was a clumsy way of doing it.</strong></p>
<p>Mostly because it basically did &#8220;The Loop&#8221;, but after a single post (the latest), it then changed the format of subsequent posts to &#8220;excerpts&#8221;, and through the magic of styling and divs, changed the format of THOSE to a different location (&#8220;below the fold&#8221;) as well as a different style.</p>
<p>Its clumsy, because if you SEARCH for different items, your results will ALSO end up the same way; the first item will be okay, but the rest of your search results will be styled &#8220;below the fold&#8221; &#8212; which is REALLY supposed to be for INDEPENDENT, footer-type items &#8230; latest posts, latest links, a detailed &#8220;about&#8221; and so on.</p>
<p><strong>Therefore, a new &#8220;below the fold&#8221; is the following:<br />
</strong><br />
1) truly independent, and in the &#8220;footer.php&#8221;<br />
2) will include the following items, independent of whats above the fold:<br />
a) latest entries / popular entries<br />
b) latest &#8220;news&#8221; (aka magnolia or delicious entries)<br />
c) blog roll &#8212; popular other blogs<br />
d) a true footer</p>
<p><strong>To accomplish this, you fundamentally need to sort out the trick to get multiple loops on the same page.</strong></p>
<p>Why?  The latest series of posts above the loop &#8212; that&#8217;s loop #1.  The last series of entries below the loop, to show up on every single page independently of what&#8217;s above the loop (it could just be headlines a la &#8220;<strong><a target="_blank" title="Crate" href="http://www.crate.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.crate.com');">crate</a></strong>&#8220;) is loop #2.</p>
<p>The Codex has what seems to be a good explanation of how to do more than one loop AND be able to select which posts to select IN that loop:</p>
<p><strong><a target="_blank" title="MULTIPLE LOOPS!" href="http://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop#Multiple_Loops" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/codex.wordpress.org');">http://codex.wordpress.org/The_Loop#Multiple_Loops </a></strong></p>
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		<title>How WordPress Integrates PHP Part I.</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/10/how-wordpress-integrates-php-part-i/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Design]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s going to be a part II &#8230; ) But, WordPress has an interesting way of dealing with &#8220;control structures&#8221; &#8212; that is, ifs, whiles, etc etc. Although you can add &#8220;tags&#8221; to create and modify (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/10/how-wordpress-integrates-php-part-i/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s going to be a part II &#8230; )<br />
<strong>But, WordPress has an interesting way of dealing with &#8220;control structures&#8221; &#8212; that is,</strong> <strong>ifs, whiles, etc etc.</strong></p>
<p>Although you can add &#8220;tags&#8221; to create and modify pages (and The Loop), at its heart, it MUST adhere to the rules of PHP &#8212; because that&#8217;s how WordPress is built upon.</p>
<p>Therefore, its curious how it deals with its control structures, because THERE ARE NO CURLY BRACKETS!</p>
<p>That is, when you usually use an &#8220;IF&#8221;, the actual stuff which follws the operator is usually enclosed in curly brackets!</p>
<p>To wit: <span id="more-49"></span><br />
if (anita == pregnant) {hungfamily +=1; }</p>
<p>ANYWAY:</p>
<p>There are no curly brackets in the actual code.</p>
<p>That is, there is nothing like:<br />
(DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN WITH EXAMPLES &#8230; )</p>
<p>Is anita pregnant?  yes she is!</p>
<p><strong>RATHER:<br />
Wordpress uses an interesting quirk because its SYNTAX is also borrowed from PYTHON:<br />
SEE: <a title="PHP tutorial" target="_blank" href="http://vsbabu.org/tutorials/php/index-2.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/vsbabu.org');">http://vsbabu.org/tutorials/php/index-2.html</a></strong></p>
<p>In other words, it can also follow this syntax (that is, NO CURLY BRACKETS)</p>
<pre>if (expr1) :
...
...
elseif (expr2) :
...
else :
...
endif;</pre>
<p>Therefore, you can get away with just including things like  without any curly braces &#8230; just make sure to end it properly!</p>
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		<title>Another thought &#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/09/another-thought/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could structure dual header divs, just like the footer divs, to create the same effect as the one already &#8230; that is, you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily need a background witha black top &#8216;simulating&#8217; a black border for the header. Something (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/09/another-thought/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could structure dual header divs, just like the footer divs, to create the same effect as the one already &#8230; that is, you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily need a background witha black top &#8216;simulating&#8217; a black border for the header.</p>
<p>Something to think about.</p>
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		<title>Updating the Page</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/09/updating-the-page/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cleaned up the sidebar: * added &#8220;download&#8221; link for guide * cleaned up &#8220;categories&#8221; and stuff &#8212; removed bullets and indenting (removing extraneous ULs) Also, figured outa &#8220;proper&#8221; footer *Challenge: creating a &#8220;background&#8221; which fits the entire width of the (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/09/updating-the-page/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleaned up the sidebar:</p>
<p>* added &#8220;download&#8221; link for guide<br />
* cleaned up &#8220;categories&#8221; and stuff &#8212; removed bullets and indenting (removing extraneous ULs)</p>
<p>Also, figured outa  &#8220;proper&#8221; footer</p>
<p>*Challenge: creating a &#8220;background&#8221; which fits the entire width of the screen, which, unfortunately, is currently outside the &#8220;wrapper&#8221;</p>
<p>*Solution:</p>
<p>Create a second wrapper &#8220;total_wrapper&#8221; which is width 100%, around the normal &#8220;wrapper&#8221;, which is set at 800px and centered.</p>
<p>THEN:</p>
<p>Make sure all of the below is OUT of the &#8220;inner wrapper&#8221;, which is just called &#8220;wrapper&#8221;, but still inside of the &#8220;total_wrapper&#8221;.</p>
<p>THEN &#8230; creating &#8220;Nested&#8221; divs for a single footer: an &#8220;outer_footer&#8221;, which is set to a width of 100% &#8230; it will match the edges of the &#8220;total wrapper&#8221; (which is already 100%), and an inner footer, which is just called &#8220;footer&#8221;, which is defined EXACTLY as the &#8220;wrapper&#8221; width &#8230; 800px and margin: auto.</p>
<p>If you set the background color of the outer_footer to whatever you like, you can give the appearance of a bottom-half where the text, set in the inner footer (&#8220;footer&#8221;), appears to be centered and aligned with all of the rest of the website</p>
<p>VOILA!</p>
<p>NB: Make sure to write &#8220;clear: both&#8221; for the footer div, so that it doesn&#8217;t end up below the &#8220;sidebar&#8221;, but truly below BOTH content and sidebar divs.</p>
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		<title>More WordPress/ CSS tricks</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/08/more-wordpress-css-tricks-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blurbomat is an inspiration! Moving on &#8230; Problem 1) Previously, the &#8220;theme01&#8243; showed that ALL of the post was a &#8220;link&#8221; Solution &#8212; an unclosed &#8220;anchor&#8221; (that is Interesting way I figured this out. Using the firefox extension &#8220;Edit CSS&#8221;, (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2006/06/08/more-wordpress-css-tricks-2/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" title="Blurbomat" href="http://www.blurbomat.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.blurbomat.com');">Blurbomat is an inspiration!</a></p>
<p>Moving on &#8230;</p>
<p>Problem 1) Previously, the &#8220;theme01&#8243; showed that ALL of the post was a &#8220;link&#8221;<br />
Solution &#8212; an unclosed &#8220;anchor&#8221; (that is<br />
Interesting way I figured this out.</p>
<p>Using the firefox extension &#8220;Edit CSS&#8221;, I was able to open up each theme, delete the ENTIRE theme, and then see the results &#8230; basically, my own theme was STILL an entire &#8220;link&#8221; &#8230; therefore the problem was clearly the &#8220;index.htm&#8221; file, which, as mentioned had an unclosed anchor</p>
<p>Problem 2) The fonts don&#8217;t look nice.<br />
Solution: I was using the right font &#8220;Georgia&#8221; &#8230; but it was important to write &#8220;font-weight: none&#8221;, because &#8220;Bold&#8221; looks damn ugly!</p>
<p>Problem 3) Links and Divs needing improvment<br />
Solution: Easy to do &#8230; a: hover had to changed so that the bacckground highlighted with hovering; then added a &#8220;div&#8221; so that the time is put in a nice box.<a href="http://tony.thehungs.org/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/tony.thehungs.org');"> </a></p>
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