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		<title>Yahoo Keeps An Eye On Bottom Line, While Google Goes Robotic</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wondered how Google will directly benefit from the OpenSocial API a few days ago, particularly as more bloggers believe it to be a whole lot of hot air, and now it looks like Yahoo is answering. That is, on (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/08/yahoo-keeps-an-eye-on-bottom-line-while-google-goes-robotic/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/anyone-wondering-whats-in-it-for-google-yet/"  target="_blank">I wondered how Google will directly benefit</a> from the OpenSocial API a few days ago, particularly as more bloggers believe it to be a <a href="http://www.beskerming.com/commentary/2007/11/06/299/AntiSocial_Responses_to_OpenSocial" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.beskerming.com');" target="_blank">whole lot of hot air</a>, and now it looks like <strong>Yahoo </strong>is answering.</p>
<p>That is, on a day that <a href="http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:YHOO" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/finance.google.com');" target="_blank">its stock is tanking</a> {down 7%} perhaps because of how Jerry Yang is in the unenviable position of defending his company in Congress for<a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7392987" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.mercurynews.com');" target="_blank"> a thing that happened years before he assumed the CEO-ship</a>, Yahoo is securing mobile advertising deals.</p>
<p>Now, call me a crude simpleton but it looks like these kinds of maneuverings are *exactly* what will pad Yahoo&#8217;s bottom line.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0740726020071107" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.reuters.com');" target="_blank">Reuters has the low-down</a> which involves Yahoo&#8217;s mobile chief racing to get Yahoo&#8217;s ads in front of hundreds of millions of mobile customers before Google&#8217;s android ever sees the light of day &#8212; which is scheduled to be the latter half of 2008, practically an eternity in geek-years.</p>
<p>In fact the breadth of these deals seem to be pretty &#8230; well, global.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>  Yahoo already has deals to feature a package of services  like search, e-mail and mapping on limited handsets from major  phone makers, including <strong><span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_4">Nokia</span>, <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_5">Motorola</span>, Samsung Electronics,  LG Electronics and HTC &#8212; every top name except Sony Ericsson.</strong></em></p>
<p><em>  Carrier partners include <strong>Vodafone </strong>in Britain and Hutchison  <strong>Whampoa</strong>&#8216;s 3 across <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_6">Europe</span>, and a recent far-reaching deal Web  search and advertising deal with <strong><span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_7">Spain</span>&#8216;s Telefonica</strong> that covers  100 million users in several European countries and much of the  Latin American region.</em></p>
<p><em>  Yahoo has also signed advertising deals with <strong>six operators  across Southeast Asia and <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_8">India</span></strong>. North Asia is next.</em></p>
<p><em>  It has been in talks with operators in <strong><span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_9">Taiwan</span>, <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_10">South Korea</span>,  <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_11">Hong Kong</span> and <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1194485196_12">Malaysia</span> -</strong>- markets that boast some of the  highest mobile penetration rates &#8212; for new service tie-ups,  President Susan Decker said on a tour of Asia last month.</em></p>
<p>[emphasis mine]</p></blockquote>
<p>Furthermore, there&#8217;s<strong> nothing to stop Yahoo from using the Android platform</strong> to help deploy its ads and &#8216;mobilize&#8217; these ad deals that were made <strong>18 months before Android ever ships out.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em>   &#8220;If &#8216;Android&#8217; is truly open source, we can take everything  out there,&#8221; Boerries said of the outside possibility Yahoo  might use Google phone software and run Yahoo services over the  devices. &#8220;Nothing prevents me from taking it,&#8221; he said. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Deliciously Machiavellian, and simple too.  Google pwns my life as much as the next geek, but I also have a soft spot for the underdog, which Yahoo! clearly is.  In this case, and in this instance (not like how Yahoo folded like a cheap suit for the Chinese government), they&#8217;ll get my vote FTW.</p>
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		<title>Anyone Wondering &#8220;What&#8217;s In It For Google&#8221;, Yet?</title>
		<link>http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/anyone-wondering-whats-in-it-for-google-yet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hung</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am. I have been following the discussion throughout the day (when I was able to), and it seems like no one specifically knows what, perhaps, is the biggest unspoken question is about Google&#8217;s Android open-source mobile stack platform. You (&#8230;)</p><p><a href="http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/2007/11/06/anyone-wondering-whats-in-it-for-google-yet/">Read the rest of this entry &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am.  I have been following the <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/071105/p51#a071105p51" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.techmeme.com');" target="_blank">discussion throughout the day</a> (when I was able to), and it seems like no one specifically knows what, perhaps, is the biggest unspoken question is about Google&#8217;s Android <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/wheres-my-gphone.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/googleblog.blogspot.com');" target="_blank">open-source mobile stack platform</a>.</p>
<p>You know.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s in it for Google?</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I know that there&#8217;s been a lot of handwaving around &#8220;well, it will allow Google to deliver more ads on phones &#8212; that&#8217;s their strategy, duh!&#8221;</p>
<p>And to that I guess I might believe that if the platform wasn&#8217;t open-source, except it is, meaning that although Google is helping spear head this coalition of the mobile-willing, and sure, Mr. Rubin gives us Google-centered examples of what Android *could* do &#8212; <strong>well, Google can&#8217;t just &#8220;throw in ads&#8221; where it wants to.</strong></p>
<p>I mean, people will be developing their own software build upon this open-source standard, and it will be up to them if they need Google to help monetize their business with ads.  And business being business?  I suspect that no one actually wants to turn to the 1000 ton Gorilla in the room unless they absolutely need to.</p>
<p>I mean, if there&#8217;s another monetization strategy in mind I haven&#8217;t yet heard of it.</p>
<p>Or, if there&#8217;s a gotcha clause in all of this that requires partnering with Google, I also haven&#8217;t yet heard of it.</p>
<p>But it seems peculiar to me that Google has spent all this time and manpower (although they certainly have the wherewithal to do it) to develop something that it can&#8217;t directly and explicitly benefit.  It either smacks of something deliciously devious (which would be awesome), awesomely altruistic (anyone skeptical?), or neither of the two, which would be puzzling (but possible: <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/dodgeball-founders-leave-google.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/googlesystem.blogspot.com');" target="_blank">Dodgeball anyone</a>?)</p>
<p>Other skeptics:</p>
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<li><strong>Om Malik</strong>: Who wonders if this all isn&#8217;t <a href="http://gigaom.com/2007/11/05/google-launches-mobile-phone-platform-android/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/gigaom.com');" target="_blank">PR smoke that&#8217;s been blown up our metaphorical behinds</a></li>
<li><strong>Wall Street Journal</strong>: Who queries if the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119427874851482602.html?mod=yahoo_hs&amp;ru=yahoo" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/online.wsj.com');" target="_blank">Alliance will actually develop software once Android becomes available</a></li>
<li><strong>Fake Steve Jobs</strong>: Who ponders if all of this, coupled with OpenSocial <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/11/its-not-phone-its-alliance.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/fakesteve.blogspot.com');" target="_blank">isn&#8217;t just reactionary</a> {cough, cough &#8212; Facebook}</li>
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