So I had a chance to listen in on the Digg Town Hall today, which wasn’t quite the format I was expecting, as they fielded 20 questions that were sent to them (ordered by Diggs, naturally), rather than answer live question from the (virtual floor).
Nevertheless, what I got out of it was a few things:
1. Catching spam is a big priority: Digg is putting a lot of cash and resources into hiring people who can find algorithmic ways to tackle this stuff. And Kevin and Jay are keenly aware that the integrity of their site hinges on being able to catch spam — so much so that they self-censored themselves when trying to describe exactly how Digg promotes stuff, because they don’t want spammers using that information against Digg. One of the more interesting stories I heard was how one blog would pay a top Digger to submit stories — often good stories, quality stuff — have it promoted to the front page, and then weeks later, have that URL re-direct to another URL (or another page), thereby increasing traffic to that other page. Pretty crafty / black-hat stuff! Anyway, that’s just one example of the stuff they’re trying to fight off. Another one that they described was one enterprising guy hiring dozens (hundreds?) of people in eastern Europe (Romania?), and they caught the spamming as they were all from the same region (caught by IP address) which looked pretty suspicious.
2. They will never disclose their exit strategy: People ask them “all the time” whether Digg is going to get sold. They never talk about it, and probably never will talk about it. Rather, they want to invest their time into improving features with the site, such as the comments section and searching, and duplicate checking, which they readily admit, is something that they’re trying to fix.
3. Their emphasis is on improving Digg’s features — not its customer support: Ok, that’s not entirely true, because one of the things that’s coming in the pipeline (or so we’re told) is a forum of some kind for people to ask questions and have their questions answered; apparently there’s going to be two broad categories … one for general user type questions, and another for technical questions (how to get the Digg badge to work, and so on). What I actually mean is that there are a small but vocal (and important) group of Digg users, some of whom are considered the Digg elite (top Diggers, etc etc), who are pining for a way to get their emails answered in a personal, timely manner, about questions that probably have nothing to do with not understanding the FAQ. Questions around why people were banned, how they can get re-instated, blacklisting of URLs and the rationale for why that might be happening. These are all legitimate concerns, but it seems like Digg’s big focus is on features, and in spite of Jay’s reassurances (”we don’t just ban anyone; there’s a back and forth … a dialogue, before someone gets banned” for example), unconfirmed reports suggest that for many Diggers, that just hasn’t been their experience.
Other miscellania that I remember:
- There is no auto-bury function, rather just a sophisticated algorithm for judging which stories get promoted
- there is probably *as* a sophisticated function for burying just as their is for promoting
- “diversity” of people digging clearly has some importance (and weights each Digg differently, is what I got out of it). What diversity means exactly, they didn’t want to reveal.
- Kevin gets together with the guy from Delicious, and the other guy from Reddit (don’t know their names) to regularly commiserate over the never-ending battle between spammers, trying to game these social sites, and the kind of solutions they have to come up with to detect it, and then end it.
- There is only one guy “moderating” at any one time
- They don’t like to call him a moderator (they used another name, like “sys admin”, or something)
- They rely quite heavily on focus groups to help them decide which features suck, which ones they introduce, and to test new features. There is a way to get into these groups, but by that time, either my own connection conked out, or they merely decided to pull the plug on the presentation.
The bottom line that I got out of it was they gave the appearance that they were trying to make Digg better — and that it takes time, and that they actually get most of the feedback that comes to them, positive and no.
Lastly, for the vocal Digger / social media crowd who are keen to get some better answers to their questions, unfortunately, while the mechanism that currently exists to get in touch with them is probably lacking (and sorely, from the sounds of some Diggers), its clear that this aspect of Digg isn’t something that’s a priority for them to fix — improving and adding new features to Digg is.
It’ll be interesting to see how that part of the debate evolves from townhall meeting, to townhall meeting.
More:
- Mat Ingram’s wrap up
- Social News Watch’s thoughts on the auto bury denial
- Mashable’s embeded Ustream of the entire Digg Town Hall
- CNet who thinks there was too much navel gazing
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I found it interesting that they did admit to having a blacklist of sites that is matched with the upcoming queue in an automated process. But then, don’t worry, there’s no “auto-bury.” Well, I guess it’s how you define auto-bury. To me, that sounds an awful lot like what I would consider to be “auto-bury.”
But then, all they had to say is “fighting spam” and all is well. The crowd is appeased even if plenty of legitimate sites are auto-buried / blacklisted in the process.
Plus there was a quick nod to the “our hands are tied” excuse toward the end in reference to the fact that sometimes the digg crowd gets together and decides it hates certain sites/blogs. Too bad for those sites; they’re not welcome by however many of the tens of millions of uniques it takes for the sites to be blacklisted/auto-buried (I’m guessing probably somewhere around .00001% of the community can decide what is permanently not wanted by everyone).
To recap, legitimate sites can be (and have been, just not Engadget or Ars Technica, of course) blacklisted / banned / auto-buried (pick your term) because they’re a) mistaken as spam or b) rejected a couple times by an extremely small percentage of the community.
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